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city's times square i'm melissa lee. first china conundrum. is the chinese recovery in recovery mode? a top strategist is digging through the data. hedgefund head winds are supposed to be some of the smartest on the street but 2012 has not been kind. find out if december will bring rebound or redempson. commodities collapse. breaking down the slide in gold today. first we have to get straight to our top story and that is apple down by 1.75%. could apple's problem be that its growth has, in fact, peaked. well respected strategist out with a note highlighting the multiple which has been in steady decline since 2009. the peak marked by the release of the iphone 3 gs and earnings growth is what the stock needs to go higher. so do you buy that perhaps margins have, in fact, peaked here and that the best is over for apple? >> i have a mic problemb now. if you look at wear google and microsoft have been on the margins this has been a place for the stocks. >> that is a great point. >> magic of live television. >> he strolled in. >> the price action is skimming. you can say what you want abou
Dec 4, 2012 4:00pm EST
that you or some see as much as a 50% gain on, and that's a whole country, china. china's been beaten down so much over the past year, that some people are expecting a 50% rally. what do you think about china investment right now? >> i'll tell you, ddve, one thing about china that we noticed is every since the national congress went by them, there was not a stimulus coming from them, the stock market got hammered, even though the economic data gets better. they are one of the worst emerging markets so far year to date. with the lower chains of stimulus, investors pull out. money going into is the chinese shares. what are the shares? the hong kong proxy for the market. foreign investors, like hedge funds, short the market, and they are covering shorts now. carson black is a short seller bear own china and he covered all the chinese shorts. right now, there's a noted technician out there in the market, tom demark, a lot of the faster hedge funds listen to him. he said yesterday, you know what? there's a good chance of a 50% jump in shanghai composite. david: where do you put your money? >> t
Dec 4, 2012 11:00am EST
. how is china doing? >> we are actually doing the best. just look at china. the chinese economy is actually not doing that well. there are a lot of complex. the new party just took over the control. there are a lot of things to figure out. the u.s. is in the best condition right now. we have to get past this fiscal cliff and move on. connell: we probably would be talking a lot more about china and the transition of power and how president obama is supposed to do without. when you say there are economy is not doing that great, does that mean it is in jeopardy of a tough all, or it will hang in there? >> i think it will hang in there. china, i think, will grow. reasonably, i have seen some analysts come out and be pretty bullish. their economy, the outlook is willing not that bright. although, they probably will not fall hard. china is sort of setting their status quo. i think the u.s., again, back to the u.s., they have to get their act together. connell: a few days after the end of the year. that is just silly, if you think about it. if we all know the answers, why do we have to
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there are also, i think, signs that for russia and china, i think they would be prepared, possibly, to look at a way you could manage an outcome of this, so that you get some form of agreement that -- >> provide asylum, we're getting him out -- >> -- but for the rest of the world, such are the consequences of this disintegration are happening, most people look at any reason to get him out, get a new form of democratic constitution in, and then try and stabilize the situation. >> i'm going to make a very sharp turn to talk about something much more joyful, which is the news of the oil baby, whose birth is impending. we know that catherine is in the hospital now. what is the -- what's it like in, in london, in great britain, with this kind of news? people must just be going insane. >> well, you know, britain loves the royal family. so, and people are very happy, very joyful. they're a very popular young couple and this is great news for them. and you know, also, really actually, when the economy is a little tough, and when times are a little tough, this is news that cheers everyone up. >> it'